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VNO / VND does not play a role in androstenone detection

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=14674834 Assessment of olfactory function and androstenone odor thresholds in humans with or without functional occlusion of the vomeronasal duct. Knecht M , Lundström JN , Witt M , Hüttenbrink KB , Heilmann S , Hummel T . Smell and Taste Clinic, Department of Otorhinolaryngology, University of Dresden Medical School, Dresden, Germany. To obtain information on the possible role of the vomeronasal duct (VND) in odor perception and human pheromone detection, the present study investigated different aspects of olfactory function, including thresholds for androstenone in adults with or without detectable VNDs. The study also examined correlations between detection thresholds of androstenone odor and general olfactory function. Subjects' olfaction was assessed with tests for odor identification, odor discrimination, and phenyl ethyl alcohol odor threshold. Measurements were performed ...

Day report 07/31: 3 drops A314 + 1 squirt SOE

Covered with Geir. One asian girl kept getting close to me and her hand was continuously touching mine but she won't move it so I let it be there too. I wasn't in mood for conversation and was feeling slightly aloof even among friends. Asian girl in lab said I smell good without prompting and was sexual.

Day report 07/30/07: 2 MA314 + 2 Ammo

2 drops MA314 and 2 sprays of Ammo from the full size bottle (1 on chest, 1 on back of neck). I think the alcohol smell of Ammo has subsided now and it's back to smelling quite good. Also I have been working on a respect mix for some time. It is primarily based on sprayable A314 versions and Ishine and IH but also includes P93, P79, TAF and some TAL. I mixed some concentrated cologne oils and after about a month now it smells very good. Need to give this a try. I hope it works as well for respect as my attraction mix works for attraction. Back to today... Asian friend in lab is responding fine. I feel more centered and more focussed on work. No extra eye contacts or other IoIs from any other women. I added 15-20 mcg of P74 in hopes it will add something but nothing changed. Good mix for attraction in theory but not in practice. I think I had tried this before with similar conclusions. Maybe I will get back to it at a later time. But I wonder why this combination had no overt signs....

07/27/07: MA314 + overnight -none + Pherlure

Yesterday night before going to bed I put on 1 drop PI + 1 spray TE + 4 squirts of TE gel. Today morning after my regular scrub shower applied 2 drops MA314 rubbed on wrists, neck and chest and added 2 sprays of Pherlure, one to chest and another to back of neck. Today the asian lady noticed me first and said Hi but didn't get down at her usual bus stop. Avoidance...but it's not the pheros. Moving on...I love the smell of pherlure. I also liked Pherogame from Androtics which I think smells similar and has a very nice melon note. Afternoon...got checked out by two hot nurses from the nearby hospital. Another Indian girl gave a smile and kept staring. More eye contact in general from women and more respect and feeling of being noticed more. There was definitely some -none remnant from last night. I will try today's application again without the previous night -none overload.

Summary of most successful mixes so far

1) July 24, 2007: I used 1 spray IO 2X from to-go bottle on the face, 1 spray Ammo from to-go bottle to the back of head, 4 sprays IH 2X from to-go bottle, 2 sprays on each side of face and neck(since I planned to increase the rapport) and dressed A&F 2) July 20, 2007: 2 drops A314 + 4 squirts of TE gel from mini pump + 5-6 dabs of PF. A314 and TE gel rubbed on wrists, neck and chest and PF on face. 3) July 05, 2007: Today I applied very little V-5. Covered the dropper mouth with my finger with slight pressure and inverted the bottle and applied near sideburns and repeated it once more for the other side. Covered with CKone maybe 5 sprays from the full bottle and 3 sprays from the smaller bottle on shirt. 4) July 01, 2007: 1 drop A314 + 1 drop WAGG 5) June 28, 2007: Wagg: 1-2 drops on the wrist, rubbed on neck, shirt etc.2 sprays of old MX101: one on back of neck, one on front under shirt 6) June 11, 2007: Today used A314 (3 drops) +TE gel (1 squirt from mini-pump)+PF (5-6 dabs ne...

Cold reponse from target but lots of respect signals from others

Today wore 3 drops A314 on chest, 7-8 PF dabs on face, 2 sprays Realm on either side of neck, 1 spray IH on face. She was COLD (!!) and none of that desire to spend time with me. I wonder what the hell happened. Let's hope it had nothing to do with me. Lots of respect and friendly signals from other men, more than usual eye contact from other women as well.

Absence makes the heart grow fonder

Lets see if it works in my case. On another note... Today used 1 spray of diluted V-5 (1/5) about 12.5 mcg on wrists. Nothing special yet. Met the asian lady briefly in the evening around 6pm. One of her friends who probably came to pick her up just stood looking in my direction for some time which I later realised and turned towards her and she went inside the building. I wonder if they have been talking as I don't know this other friend and have never met her. Anyways so I couldn't be fully absent for the entire day.

Follow up report

I remember Michael saying that after you hae gained sufficient experience with pheromones it becomes like cooking, you can taste the food you have cooked and know if you need more salt, or more pepper or more something else. So for applying pheromones as well follow your senses (when they are developed enough). Following that philosophy I used 1 spray IO 2X from to-go bottle on the face, 1 spray Ammo from to-go bottle to the back of head, 4 sprays IH 2X from to-go bottle, 2 sprays on each side of face and neck(since I planned to increase the rapport) and dressed A&F. Boy did that work like a charm. On the bus stop and in the bus I grabbed attention (also attributed to the previous day A314+TE+PF application, although washed using Nioxin in morning) and there was also a friendly air about me. Asian lady from yesterday was there again, pretended to not notice me but I tapped her on the shoulder and said Hi and then didn't try to talk to her after that (there was no need as I was ...

Day report 07/23/07: Same attractive mix

Okay, I was hoping to see the asian lady from my 07/20 report so I put on the same mix . Sat near her on the bus and chatted with her. She seems very nice and friendly. If there was any lull in conversation she would break the silence. I think the mix worked great. She had also responded well to the minute V-5 experiment of 07/05 ("One very pretty asian girl stared at me full on while we were walking towards each other").

Diluents and Cleansers

Seeking solution for androstenone application without buildup: Currently looking at Dimethicone and Cyclomethicone http://www.snowdriftfarm.com/silicone_use.html Carbomer Pre-Gel http://www.snowdriftfarm.com/form_carbomer_pre-gel.html POLYSORBATE 20 How about using it in concentrated form to clean off the pheromones from the application points http://www.snowdriftfarm.com/emulsifiers.html Is antibacterial soap any better than regular soap? http://home.howstuffworks.com/question692.htm

Today's mix" 07/20/07 The most amazing mix

That's right, the most amazing mix ever: 2 drops A314 + 4 squirts of TE gel from mini pump + 5-6 dabs of PF . A314 and TE gel rubbed on wrists, neck and chest and PF on face. Most everyone responds well with this mix. Thing is you don't need overt responses from many people, one or two such responses instills enough confidence in the mix. Also as can be seen in my previous posts, adding Wagg/V-5 has always spoiled this mix. Replacing PF with SOE was okay but in few instances it led to total invisibility and left me scratching my head if I was too high status for people to even be courteous to me or just too low status for people to bother acknowledging my presence. I think SOE was the culprit. Adding IO has been okay although even with IO I have seen some instances of women being short without any reason. Now instead of TE I have tried using PI and have gotten DIHL's but no one approaches, only admiration from far, and PI is very prone to buildup. Another point to note is ...

Today's mix: 07/16/07: Complex

1 drop V-5 + 1 drop MA314 + 1 drop TE + 5 dabs of PF + 2 squirts of SOE. All rubbed on wrists, face and chest. Nothing special. I think I tried a similar mix in the past on 07/10/07. Although it was missing PF and SOE and had Wagg instead of V-5. If the mix doesn't get me more eye contact then I know I don't want it. Added about 40 mcg of P74 in the evening and received 1 IoI from a mixed caucasian+black girl. Throw away this mix...it's junk!

Simple and very complex mixes better for attraction

Post by Michael at Pherotalk One is dominant in each, but it's not a 90/10 spread.On the other hand, CTTM Mix 2 is almost perfectly half and half. It's much a much simpler mix. It just has two pheromones, and that's it. CTTM Mix 2 effects are considerably different than Instant Honesty.Instant Honesty has quite a bit of error correction to reduce the negatives of beta-Androstenol. CTTM Mix 2 has none.CTTM Mix 2, however, should be better for attraction than Instant Honesty. I find for attraction, both simple or "raw" mixes, as well as vast, symphonic mixes, work best. That's right -- both the simply and the overly complex. The extremes.Whereas the elegant middle ground tends to work best for daily life, relationships, work, etc.Think about it. This works with personality types, too. Attraction wise, we tend to be most taken with those who are either ultra-primitive/brute, or those who immensely refined. The middle ground doesn't get your juices flowing mu...

New products from Pharmacomdirect

EPOXYESTRATRIENOL, 16,17-epoxyestra-1,3-5(10)-trien-3-ol http://www.pharmacomdirect.com/index.php?p=products2&i=6837 this compound seems the most powerful, and visibly active vomeropherin we have ever devised.. They have come up with few other products after Aquagen. By the way Aquagen is so cheap there as compared to l-s (damn those l-s markups), $45 as compared to $70 at l-s. New products listed on the website: http://www.pharmacomdirect.com/sub_view.php?id=247 EXOTIC WOMAN: Engineered exclusively for transsexual women CORPORATE EDGE: Bioengineered for the businessman ICE-BREAKER - empower the ability to break down your barriers to entry Primal-type: a remake of the popular "PI" NPA-type: a remake of the "New Pheromone Additive" Alpha A314-type: it's all about the respect I hope they are kidding with the last two. Although CORPORATE EDGE and ICE-BREAKER definitely look interesting and seem to have some new technology in them. CORPORATE EDGE This product ...

Pherlure arrived few days back

I was reading past posts by Catlord and Thomas at Pherotalk and I thought I will give Pherlure a shot. I thought if it didn't work I could easily return it since I have heard they are very good with returns and immediately refund your money. Today applied 1 spray on face and another on wrist held in front of face (eyes closed ofcourse). DIHL from an asian girl, dilated pupils and smile when I talked to her, continued to look at me when I looked back at her after I got down from the bus. Another middle eastern girl checked me out blatantly in front of my other friends. Cashier at breakfast place was very shy and giggly. The hits and body language signs I got with it tell me that it probably contains a variant of androstenone but I am almost sure it is not exactly androstenone. Hits were androstenone like but the self effects are not androstenone like at all. Maybe it's androst a none. I am positive it has pheromones and something that works quite well. More investigation in prog...

Flirtatious smile: from "Social Intelligence" by Goleman

From "Social Intelligence" by Goleman The flirtatious smile is catalogued among Paul Ekman's eighteen varieties: the flirter smiles while facing elsewhere, then gazes directly at the target of ardor just long enough to be noticed, before quickly looking away. That coy tactic takes advantage of an ingenious neural circuit that almost seems to have been planted in the male brain just for that moment. A team of neuroscientists in London discovered that when a man receives the direct gaze of a woman he finds attractive, his brain activates a dopamine circuit that delivers a dollop of pleasure. Simply looking at beautiful women, or making eye contact with someone not perceived as attractive fails to activate this circuitry.

Great post by tacitus at pherotalk

Getting through with style http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/tips-thoughts-you-who-worry-about-2568-8.html There are those people who are remarkably skillful at geting through life, so I have to think that "success" with others is a large skill set... it is a wise idea to avoid fragmentation and comparmentalizing... as if to think there is a specific box filled with love skills.... thats mostly a load of marketing BS that has next to nothing to do with real life... like you may find yourself in social groups, meetings on one hand, parties with a business edge to them, hanging out and shooting the breeze, sometimes small clusters of men brushing up against small clusters of women... and there's a hell of a lot of signaling on three levels, the top level are the overt, obvious, intentional signals, (in intention-speak, what "you mean to mean"), then there is a middle level, sometimes referred to a liminal communication which is that sl...

Some old mix recommendations by surfs_up at l-s

http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?p=181222#post181222 try the A314 with WAGG.... she'll start talking about what she's thinking... you need to get into her head and find out what her priorities are. http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?p=176411#post176411 a314 with NPA could be a little intense not necessarily in a bad way. A314 has a unique socially comfortable vibe to it, somewhat less romatic than Chikara. A314 is the best converstional, hang out and let it flow kind of phero product on the market without swinging hard for the romantic starry eyed alpha-nol mood or the do-it-harder-faster-deeper -none mood if you clock it properly. A314 is a trust, communication, at ease juice. There is a perceptible humorous thread in it that feels like alpha or beta dienol at work. A314 is oily, so there is a slower release function, it will creep up on you where alcohol based mones thump you harder at the outset. When I've mixed up brews close to A314+NPA th...

Day report 07/05/07: Pherone V-5 some success

Today I applied very little V-5. Covered the dropper mouth with my finger with slight pressure and inverted the bottle and applied near sideburns and repeated it once more for the other side. Covered with CKone maybe 5 sprays from the full bottle and 3 sprays from the smaller bottle on shirt. One very pretty asian girl stared at me full on while we were walking towards each other. One older female friend went giggly and started behaving like a little girl with wobbly knees. One white girl kept staring nonstop while I was talking to a guy acquaintance. Another black girl kept looking at me while I was waiting for the elevator and she was passing back and forth from some classroom. This was at around 10 am. I didn't notice anything special on the bus ride. Ok, it's 11 am and another very pretty white girl gave a very friendly smile even though I was focussed on something else and didn't look at her, she kept looking until I looked at her and then smiled. My asian friend came ...

Pherone V-5 initial impression

It smells exactly like Wagg, also the bottle is the same as Wagg, including the label which is also black on white background with similar font styles just the name being different. So KZI might be Pherone as MHarris mentioned (in a PM to Visionary). I think that's good news then. The high price of Wagg at l-s is probably due to their high markups. Yesterday I observed women crowding around my area in the bus, and not much else to note. Haven't seen any disrespectful behavior at work yet which is good. The smell is super musky like Wagg and it lasted a long while almost 10 hrs or even more, which is great as well.

1 drop A314 + 1 drop WAGG

Went to a club with 2 asian girls and an asian guy. The asian girl sitting opposite me was making good eye contact during conversation, which would not have happened if I had unbuffered androstenone residue on me. For the last few days I have used PMX101 and TE etc but WAGG and A314 did a good job of totally negating any androstenone residue effects. Also got some interest indications from other girls in the bar including a bartender at the second club.

Pherone V-5 has arrived

Alright after seeing interesting things with WAGG I decided to see how V-5 works since it is much cheaper and if I like the effects and find it to be similar to WAGG I will probably prefer to buy this over WAGG. Smelling from the bottle it smell very much like WAGG but even more musky. Experimentation starts tomorrow!