Pros:
1) Extremely social - Strangers would smile and say helloKeep in mind that this is a very high -none mix, so this effect in itself is pretty incredible. It can easily lead to an opening for interesting conversations.
2) Immense confidence - You will walk with your head held high and a spring in your step. Creates a very upbeat mood. Think Instant Shine on steroids.
3) Intense attraction - If you are in a club type atmosphere you are bound to see intense attraction type reactions. I saw it 80% of the time.
4) Makes you proactive and cocky - This makes you want to approach and be social and its easy to be humorous and articulate. This is in contrast to some other good mixes that make you too laid back and feel like you are too good for everyone.
5) Decent day-after affects - It doesn't convert to something nasty the day-after and it may actually be promoting your own release of attractive mones, leading to very attractive daytime effects the next morning (unless you have too much of a buildup from repeated usage).
Cons:
1) Lack of daytime effects: Doesn't show itself that well with a fresh application during the daytime.
2) Buildup: It is as prone to buildup as any other -none based product and is riskier due to high concentration.
3) Less connection: People may not remember their reaction the next day to you as it may seem too surreal.
So, the question is how can we reduce the cons and improve upon its pros. In my testing, I found following to have a positive impact:
1) Extra TAA made it slightly better.
2) Adding P79 seemed to make women more likely to approach, but you need to watch yourself from getting in a debate mode.
3) Adding P75 gives more head-snapping attention as you enter a room
4) Adding TAL may make some women with low-confidence bolder and more likely to come in your proximity. Without added TAL, women with low-confidence are turned off and will stay away.
5) P86 may have a beautifying effect, but it may kill the energy and make it anti-sexual, and laidback.
6) P83 may help if it creeps up later when you are already engaged in a conversation with someone, otherwise it may annoy some people and negate the social magnetism effects.
7) -rone will make it too safe at a decent dose. Haven't tried adding very low doses of -rone, but adding A314 will negate the many effects of MX101 and make it seem like you don't have it on.
8) P74 may make it slightly more social, but be prepared to have to shout, as people will speak over you, and dominate you in conversations.
I know there are tons of other interesting molecules that I haven't mentioned above as I haven't had a chance to test them yet in conjunction with it, like P130, P96 etc.
Need ideas on which molecules can be added so that the resultant mix:
1) can be worn during daytime - say at a low dose without ODing
2) retains its core positive effects and is enhanced - at say 2 spray for night use
My suggestion would be to use a microdose of P95. This will make the Androstenone more approachable without blunting its most important aspects. P96 could do the same thing, as can a number of other molecules in the P9x series. I'd go easy on the P95, as too much can change the nature of the mix. You may or may not find this change preferable, though I personally prefer to take an approach of blunting the negatives without significantly altering the nature of the mix.
ReplyDeleteP79 will amplify the aspects already inherent to a mix. In a more complex mix, things may get especially confused. For this reason, adding P79 will actually hinder PheroProof's potential to be added to other mixes save the very simplest examples. If you intend to try this again, I'd lower the dose of P79 just to the point where you get the benefit you're looking for.
Too much P75 can be offputting, but it takes little to have some desirable effect. See how you like 0.5-1.5mcg added to the mix. P95 is the best buffer for P75 I know of, so this will allow you to push the dose higher without any downsides. A 1:3 ratio P95:P75 seems to be ideal.
P86 takes an incredibly small amiunt to have some benefit. Try 0.125-25mcg. More than this isn't needed to see some benefit, and I think it would eliminate the downsides you've seen (or predicted?)
P83 is a pure disinhibitor. It brings out aspects that already exist within the mix. Annoyance is a typical Androstenone effect, and perhaps the negation of social magnetism is a result of bringing out Androstenone's more primitive side. If you want to use P83, this is another one I'd go very easy on due to the nature of its effects.
Trace androsterone could prove useful, though P95 already covers the safety aspect. Try using 1mcg or less.
P74 is one molecule I've found too problematic in male mixes. In itself, it's too friendly, easily dominated by others. All mixes that include it end up going a long way to eliminate its negative aspects. P95 on its own should more than cover the needed social ground, with trace doses offering only a mild increase in effects and higher doses gradually ramping this up. You'll have to find out for yourself which dose you prefer.
These are a few of the suggestions I have in mind. Hopefully you'll find them useful for your purposes.
Ekscentra
Thank you for your comments Ekscentra. P95 seems like a very interesting molecule and one that I have no experience with sadly. All your suggestions are well noted in case I want to recreate this mix.
ReplyDeleteMX101 was a pretty incredible mix considering how simple it was. I guess it was the ratios, but the super happy outward focused confidence (as opposed to dark reserved brooding confidence) was simply remarkable. Plus the hit rate of 80% is way beyond anything up until that point and is pretty incredible even now considering how advanced some of the latest mixes are.
You seem to have a pretty good handle on making mixes so I would love to see you try to create something similar. I do follow your reports on Pherotruth but sadly don't have a lot of time to contribute there and follow up, so I pretty much just jot down my notes in a diary and post on the blog when I have some concrete findings.
These days I am just so impressed by all of LAL mixes. I don't know what diffusion tech he has that I don't see any buildup with any of his -none mixes, while with Androtics mixes that was always a huge problem for me. If someone can make MX101 with your suggested enhancements but use the base used by LAL that makes even -none non-sticky, that will be super amazing. I think it may even surpass the old MAG atleast for consistency of sexual/attraction hits. With no buildup people could use it more often and see more success by building a reputation in the places they visit most often I think. This was difficult to do before as you had to space out the usage and you would have a very different vibe without this on.
Another thing was that there is very little memory/imprinting effect in MX101, and I feel thats absolutely essential given that we know what benefits products like Nude Alpha can bring. Any thoughts on how to bring that effect?
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ReplyDeleteP95, Beta -nol and trace androsterone in tandem would be more than capable of generating an imprint effect. Should this not be enough, I'll mention something I've been lookng into for the past few months: Vasopressin. I've spoken with thundr about this one before. A small number of us believe this could be what's responsible for the imprinting effect in many of LAL's blends. If so, it's more than worth looking into. Similarly to oxytocin, I don't expect you'd need much to achieve a desirable result. Should you decide to test this, I'd start at 1mcg. I'm not personally interested in what's in Nude Alpha, as I believe this is what results in the reverse imprinting as well. Interesting that reports of Nude Alpha Gel that I've seen seem to indicate a lack of reverse imprinting. Long-term testing will determine if this effect will persist. If so, consider my interest revitalized, but only in the context of gel-based mixes. LAL's diffusion tech is some of the best in the industry not on Pheroproof/MX101 effects and how to improve upon them